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2008-05-02 Site 360 Interview Self-Determination

TONY ZIRKLE ON THE BLACK EXPERIMENT

Here is my conversation with Tony when I ask him to explain to me what he exactly said to a Kokomo Perspective reporter in Kokomo, Indiana.

I think that most don’t realize the power that the party chairmen have on both sides (Republican and Democrat) to formulate a debate. I was talking to the reporter about Israel, and I had a plan for America to get out of Iraq. What I want us to do is not stay in Iraq, permanently. But I thought that it would be better for us to move over and make a permanent base in Southern Lebanon so that we could have Israel and have a Christian state in Southern Lebanon and split the northern part off to be with Syria.

Right now, Syria is using Lebanon as a puppet state to carry out terrorist attacks on Israel. Israel would have a buffer state, and the Christians won’t be the oppressed minority that they are now. They are basically systematically genocided out of there. As more and more Christians flee the Middle East, there is going to be a complete lack of Christian presence there if we don’t do something.

I have had a friend at Georgetown tell me, “Yeah, you Christians used to be the majority, but we Muslims breed faster so we are taking over.” That causes some concern because if the balance of power continues to shift and if Islam ever unites, it’s going to be a real problem for the West. So I thought that having a separate state for Christians might be one way of keeping a balance of power instead of having one Jewish state against an all Muslim state. There would be another faction in there. That’s how the conversation started, leading to my comments about separating blacks and whites into different states.

Then the reporter asked, “Well isn’t it dangerous to segregate along racial or religious lines?” I said, “If you look at Pakistan and India, they used to be one nation. They fought and fought and had wars continually. Finally, about fifty years ago, they decided to split the country in two. Pakistan became a Muslim state and India became a Hindu state.”

Splitting the country pretty much stabilized things. They have had some minor conflicts, but nothing major since then. Sometimes people have to be segregated to stop a continual war if the opposing factions can’t live together and get along. There are some major differences between Muslims and Hindus from a culture and ethnic view. The same thing holds true with the Jews and the Arabs.

Looking back through history, we put the Indians on reservations. We had fighting among the Catholics and Protestants. They were all white people; yet, they couldn’t get along. They had some compromises: whoever the prince was in a territory or a jurisdiction, whether a Catholic or Protestant, the territory was ran according to his policies and beliefs.

Then the reported posed the question: “Hasn’t desegregation worked in America?” I said, “Well, I don’t know.” I questioned just how successful it really was. Most people get their information and education from the media. If the media educates that something is right or wrong, that doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s the truth.

From my perspective, the target of my campaign is the media. It’s destroying our civilization, particularly the porn capitalists who are teaching irresponsible messages about women in our society. Under the influence of their message, our youth are spreading disease and are getting into all kinds of irresponsible behavior. The murder capitalist are making these slasher movies glorifying violence, and their copyright protection should be removed. They are the real target of my campaign, not black or Jews.

I said, “If you look at the numbers and figures, I don’t know if we can brag about them.” The divorce rate among white people, it’s like 50 percent. The out-of-wedlock birth rate is 40 percent in Indiana. It’s actually 80 percent among African Americans. It might be, in part, because of some of the messages that the media is teaching the African American community, and in particular, young black men.

The Centers for Disease Control just came out with new figures that show that 30 percent of all teenagers that are white and Hispanics had at least one STD between the ages of fourteen and nineteen. That’s astonishing. And it’s 50 percent in the African American community.

These are figures that we can’t afford not to talk about, even if you have to take the heat for speaking out, or even if people misunderstand you, or call you a racist bigot, or whatever name they may slander you with. There are too many children’s lives that are being sacrificed.

In my practice as a family law and criminal law attorney, I see too many people going to prison, too many people not having two-parent families, and too many people getting divorced. I can’t, in good faith, see what I have seen and not speak out to try to propose solutions. I’m not claiming that I have all the ideas or the best ideas, but at least I’m trying.

We cannot have a civilization that continues along a path of destruction, destroying people’s lives. I’ve seen too many mothers see their young teenage children go to prison for a long time. I’ve seen them cry in my office. I’ve seen too many victims of adultery; you can just see that pain and the look on their face when their spouse goes off and sleeps with someone else. When I was a prosecutor, I had a case where a guy went off and got AIDS and came back and gave it to his wife.

At one time, I was a prosecutor of the pornography industry. The first time that I saw child porn, I had nightmares for the next two nights. While I was prosecuting porn, I experienced extreme and constant violent thoughts. I didn’t tell anyone, and I just dismissed them because I had a job to do to serve this community. I could easily dismiss them because I’m fortunate to be highly educated and well socialized. Others who view porn, like Ted Bundy, are not. He claimed it was viewing John Holmes that made him want to kill women. As a prosecutor, I saw some of the most violent and evil images that a person could imagine, not only with murders, rapes, and robberies, but also with child exploitation. It’s really sad. I can’t, in good faith, say nothing. With my limited resources, I have to stand up and protest in every way that I can against the culture that we are raising our children in today.

I was on the world’s largest grand jury investigation. The Feds flew me out to Texas and showed me the business end of the pornography industry. The porn industry actually discriminates against safe sex. If they use a condom in the video, they will give it a down grade; it’s of lesser value to them.

The porn industry will search the world to find the most extreme form of male anatomy that they can find, and then run thousands and thousands of young teenage girls, abusing their bodies, through this one man,. There is a 100 percent chance that they are getting, at a minimum, the Human Papilloma Virus. The age of “Whoo hoo, watch me fornicate with a porn mule and get Human Papilloma Virus and cervical cancer,” days have to end. We must have minimum standards of human conduct if we are going to have a civilization that is going to be strong, healthy, and economically vibrant.

The Kokomo Perspective reporter didn’t give me a chance to fully explain my ideas. I told him that specifically that I wasn’t for segregation at this time. I would need more information to see if it was a practical experiment to implement. First, a congressional study on the idea might be in order. This is my official position at this time.

However, if we are not able to put some limits on the Supreme Court power that basically is defending the pornography industry that’s destroying our children, if we are not able to cut the crime rate, the incarceration rate, cut the out-of-wedlock rate, there might be another option that needs to be considered, seeing that our present way or doing things is failing so miserably. Autonomy through segregation might be a necessary evil at some point in time. But again, right now, I’m not for it. In international law, we see a concept littered throughout its documents. It’s called the human right of self-determination of all peoples.

The transportation cost of segregating people might be too high. People might lose their homes. But if we did do it, it would have to be on an equal protection and fair basis, and one that would give the African American population six independent states where they would have complete control to holding fee title to real estate.

Anyone who has a house or a lease can finish their ownership. They could live out their life in their house, because the Fifth Amendment says that a person can’t be deprive of property without due process of law. But at the time of death, through the estate process, that’s when a transfer could be made, so that people wouldn’t be kicked out of their homes, because I think that would be unfair.

It might take eighty to one hundred years to accomplish this fully. That way, you are not getting involved in the discriminatory segregation that we had in the past, which was racist and wrong. I actually told the reporter that I thought the segregation of the past was criminal and it was wrong. African Americans were deprived the right to vote. They were deprived the opportunity for political power. They were promised forty acres and a mule, and they didn’t get that.

If the media and the public could get over the emotionalism and calling me names and just think about the idea. The African American community would have an equal percentage of the land and political power. They would most likely experience an extreme increase in political power. We now have one half African American/half white senator right now in Congress. Under my plan, with six states, they would have twelve. That is a twenty-four fold increase in power in the senate.

I think that I heard a statistic that the average white family might have about ninety-five thousand dollars of net worth, and the average black family has about ten thousand. So if you transferred all that land into the African American community, it would more equalize the wealth among the two communities at least as far as real estate goes.

A CONVERSATION ABOUT RACE WITH TONY ZIRKLE

I believe that all men are created equal, and I believe that everyone has a soul. The original Republican, Abraham Lincoln, in his statements in 1858 before the Cooper Union had stated or predicted that blacks and white would NEVER be able to live among each other because of the physical differences in the races. I don’t know exactly what he meant by that, but it’s a very interesting comment.

Oftentimes, I’ve noticed in my practice that there seems to be a power advantage in relationships between black men and white women. I see a similar relationship between white men and Asian women. But there can’t be a rule without an exception. There are many exceptions. It’s very dangerous to generalize, but nevertheless, I do see some power differentials in these types of relationships.

I really wished that Abraham Lincoln could have explained himself a little bit better. I had a white friend at Georgetown who had an Asian fetish. He regularly had a half dozen Asian women following him around all the time it seemed. One of them just walked up to me and gave me her key to her room one day. I had never met her before; I gave it back. There seems to be a difference in the cultures with Asian women really fawning over white men and the same thing seems to be similar with white women for black men. It could be learned behavior. If it is learned behavior, it comes from our media, the movies and the things that we see.

There are arguments on both sides of this issue. If you look at the K-9 kingdom, the in-breeds often have more diseases. The king and queens of Europe, the in-breeds, had hemophilia. There is an argument to be made that the more diverse a people’s genes, the stronger their race is. African Americans have over 80 percent of white ancestry at some point on one side or the other, and a strong mix of Native American. It might be why they have such a strong superiority in many respects. When was the last time a heavyweight boxer Champion of the World wasn’t an African American?

Many things can cause a shrinking gene pool. White people have been the majority of the people who died in World War I and II. Before that, you had all kinds of wars for centuries throughout Europe. Maybe the healthy young men had been systematically going to war. For awhile, in this country, we wouldn’t even let African Americans fight, in large numbers. Fortunately, they did eventually integrate. Everybody is treated equally in the military now. But for awhile, there were centuries of white on white wars that were taking out a large percentage of the healthy white population. During World War I, it was basically white people killing each other.

Before God, I see no difference between blacks and whites. Before the law, I see no difference. But culturally, what we have learned, many times there is a difference. There is a difference between being a racist and being a culturalist. A racist is one who think one person is better than someone else just because the color of their skin or the culture that they were raised in. I think that’s wrong.

Culturally and racially, I think there are positive and negative aspects in all cultures and races. For example, on Dingus Day, I went to the Republican headquarters, and I could only get three people to talk to me. They wouldn’t even let me speak. They let all of the other candidates speak, but they wouldn’t talk to me. I went to the Veterans lodge on Western Avenue; people were shaking my hand, smiling, and talking to me. The African Americans Democrats treated me much better than the white Republicans did.

The culture in the African American community has a strong social conservative element, and I really like that, and I want to promote it. But the problem is that over 90 percent of African Americans are now voting Democrat, which officially supports abortion, which hurts the African American community more than any other community. I think they have the highest abortion rates. The Democratic Party supports the gay agenda, which I oppose. But now we are seeing what used to be one of the most anti-gay agenda cultures, the African American community, see their leaders now shifting to promote it in order to increase the voting block for their black issues. They’ve sold out on the social issues because promoting black issues are more important. Because they feel as a African American community, they need to vote Democrat because of African American issues that they feel the Democratic Party will address.

If we had six states where the African American issues were not relevant because they would have political power, than I think more African Americans would vote Republican. Because African Americans care about the social issues that Republicans say they support but rarely deliver with legislation to defend.

They don’t want to see their kids going to prison anymore than white people do.

They don’t want to see their kids out committing crimes. They don’t want to see their sons with multiple different women and then having to pay child support. They want the same thing that white people want. They want to have a job, they want to have a family, and they want to spend time with their children. They don’t want to be in jail. They want to live in crime-free neighborhoods.

Please understand, I went to college for about thirteen years. So even the idea of segregating, independence, and autonomy through separation is hard to consider. I throw hate speech at myself every time for just even thinking about it. Segregation is a loaded term. But there is also another word that we use in international law: it’s called “the human right of self- determination of all people.” It’s basically segregation. It Hebrew it’s called Kodesh and is translated holiness or separation and essentially means segregation. The right of self-determination gives cultures and peoples their independence and the freedom they need to govern themselves. We’ve done it for Jews. We talk about it for the Kurds. We did it for India and Pakistan. We gave Native Americans reservations. We are now talking about it for the Tibetans who are oppressed by the Chinese. Why not put white people on a 44 state reservation and transform the Bible Belt into the Gospel Belt?

I don’t see the same difficulties between whites and Hispanics, because Hispanics have similar European roots, they don’t have the slavery history with whites to the same degree, and they are not the prime targets for the porn capitalists as are black men and white women. And for the most part, the two groups have similar cultures and relationships. I’m basing my findings on history, politics, scripture from the Bible, and contemporary personal observations that I have seen. At Georgetown, I roomed below the basketball team and witnessed the regular parade of white girls who threw themselves at the basketball players. I even heard Alan Iverson at the lunch table talk about what this girl he’d never met before did to him.

Interracial marriage isn’t as offensive as serial polygamy that goes on prior to marriage. I actually call these types of men serial abusers and throw-away-women porn mules. Taking from Islam, where a maximum of four wives are allowed: if a porn mule has four or more women on a video tape, then they should be quarantined so that they can’t continue to harm society by further spreading STDs.

With the increase of transportation and availability, one porn star can spread sexually transmitted diseases to fifteen thousand different women. That person is causing more harm to this society than probably Al-Qaeda could ever dream of doing at this point.

I have many things critical to say about white men too. So don’t forget that. Who are the majority of the child molesters? They are not black men. They are white men. I want to be fair in my criticism. I want this to go on record.

I find all situations offensive when a man of any race abuses women of their own or another race. I’ve had black women tell me that they get treated worst than a dog from the black man that fathered her three children, then took off with someone else. I’ve seen the things that go on in interracial relationships. I’ve seen white men go off and commit heinous crimes, not only to women, but to little children. It seems to be that the child molesters, pornography addicts, and sex traffickers tend to be white men. Again, I have many critical things to say about white men. I want to make sure that people understand that. Go to Dateline MSNBC and check out Chris Hanson’s reports on Internet predators. It’s rarely do you see a black man; it’s almost always a white man in the news connected to a sex crime against children. Maybe there’s a circle of sex power relationships that goes from black men to white women. White men then reject them and go to children and Asian women. Asian men then manufacture divorce aids and send them back to white women who then further alienate themselves from white men who then are tempted even more to go after children. I’m sure I’ll get heat for that conspiracy theory.

The target of the pornography industry is white Christian women. I don’t know if this is an intentional Jewish culture that is getting some kind of revenge for War World II, or that our society teaches that white women are beautiful and doesn’t appreciate the beauty of a black woman, which we should.

But if I look back through history, some of the things that I have read in passing are that when one culture is allowed to prey on another culture continually, it gets to the point where there is a back lash reaction. Most people probably don’t know this, but if you read Adolph Hitler’s original writings, and ask what set him off the deep end, most people probably wouldn’t have any idea. In his own words, he said something to the effect that when he was in Vienna, Austria, he observed the Jewish pimps prostituting out the Christian women. He saw so much of it that it offended him deeply until a chill came up his spin, and that’s when he rose up and said that he had to do something. That’s one example, but there are probably many other examples where one culture is perceived as preying on and abusing another culture.

The pornography-prostitution industry took off in the sixties and the seventies, although Jewish doctors were promoting divorce aid machines to treat American women’s “hysteria” all the way back into the late 1800s and we did have the white slave trade in the early 1900s. All warnings from Comstock and Henry Ford were ignored, and the prostitution problem culminated in WWII when the Nazis accused the Jews of dominating 97% of all international prostitution in their slanderous work, “The Eternal Jew.” It was primarily Jewish men and Christian women. Even a Jewish porn star, Nina Hartley, once said that the ideal situation for the porn industry is for a Jewish man to go after a Catholic sister. This was the hype in the sixties and seventies, but things have changed.

Some have jumped to wild conclusions about my anti-porn-prostitution speech before the National Socialists Workers Party. I took it as an opportunity to educate and inform and passed out a whole box of books called “The Desire of Ages.” It’s one of, if not the best, commentary on the life of Christ ever written. I had previously told Channel 16 WNDU that I would speak before any group that invited me. I kept my word. I’m a Bible believing Christian. Some of that group are pagans, Christian Identity and Hitler worshippers. I am none of them. It’s odd that the Republican non-leadership is engaging in “Nazi” tactics in telling the biggest lie which is that I’m one of them and that I’m a racist bigot nutjob. I’ve been practicing law for over 11 years and have tried over 200 cases. You’d think a judge would have committed me by now.

Black men were a minority in the porn industry until the mid-nineties. Now the culture has shifted; now they intentionally target African American men like Mandingo, Lexington Steele, Jack Napier, etc. who have each fornicated with many thousands of young white girls and it’s almost always unprotected. The target that I have seen when I was a prosecutor was black men and white women. This Is who the porn industry is targeting. It’s destroying both cultures. I recently went back to visit the Naval Academy where I went to school. Just outside the gate is a dock where many slaves were auctioned, and a statue of Alex Haley, the author of “Roots” is present to remind us. I couldn’t help but ask myself if we have not replaced the economic auction block with the sex porn mule one for American black men. If we truly believe Christ that we should not fear those who can harm the body, but those who can through your body and soul into Gehenna where the worm dies not until it consumes completely, maybe the porn capitalists is to be feared more than the former slave trader.

I asked myself WWJD, what would Jesus do. His first and last acts of his 3 ½ year ministry included him cleansing the temple. What is the temple now? It’s our bodies. What is the greatest crime against the body? All sins are committed outside the body except for fornication which is porn in Greek. Jesus took special interest in healing prostitutes. John the Baptist got his head served up on a silver platter for protesting the king’s adultery, so taking bunch of name calling against me is a small price to pay for a chance to help people. It was one Christian who threw himself to the lions that stopped the Gladiator and Roman Coliseum games. It was one English man who protested England’s slave trade. We need a movement in both the black and white community to stop the intentional, targeted sexual prostitution of our races that is destroying civilized Western Christianity and is making us less able to stand against militant Islam.

Blacks and whites are becoming less and less of a percentage of America, while we have the immigration from Latin America coming up in large numbers. The birth rates among blacks and whites are dropping. The currently more meek, in my view, Latinos are inheriting the land, and they should unless both blacks and whites clean up their acts and discipline their cultures. This is an issue that most blacks and whites can unite on if they can get over the emotional issue of a random “what if” suggestion about segregation. My purpose is to stimulate debate, but the Great Porn Dragon wants to make it all about me and distract us from openly and honestly debating how we can improve the lives of our families, stimulate our economy, and reduce the taxes we pay to deal with all the crime fruits of pornography-prostitution.

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